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David Ayer Explains Batman, Jason Todd Robin & Joker Connection

We get some backstory on Batman, the dead Robin Jason Todd, and Joker in the DCEU.

Empire caught up with Suicide Squad director David Ayer who offers up the reason why Joker has certain tattoos as well as why he wears a teeth grill, which has to do with what went down with Robin.

“This is sort of my personal thing and maybe less about a larger connection,” Ayer said. “But Joker killed Robin and Batman basically smashes his teeth out and locks him up in Arkham Asylum. It’s in the asylum where Joker would have done the ‘damaged’ tattoo as a message to Batman saying, ‘You’ve damaged me. I was so beautiful before and now you’ve destroyed my face.’ That’s where the grill comes from.”

Suicide Squad also revealed that Harley Quinn had a hand in Robin’s death.

Jason Todd is currently rumored to be returning as Red Hood in the solo Ben Affleck Batman movie, with a separate rumor stating it may take place within Arkham Asylum.

“Suicide Squad” is directed by David Ayer starring Will Smith as Deadshot, Jared Leto as the Joker, Margot Robbie as Harley Quinn, Cara Delevingne as Enchantress, Jai Courtney as Boomerang, Joel Kinnaman as Rick Flag, Viola Davis as Amanda Waller, Adam Beach as Slipknot, Karen Fukuhara as Katana, Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje as Killer Croc, Jay Hernandez as El Diablo, and Scott Eastwood in an unknown role.

Synopsis:

It feels good to be bad… Assemble a team of the world’s most dangerous, incarcerated Supervillains, provide them with the most powerful arsenal at the government’s disposal, and send them off on a mission to defeat an enigmatic, insuperable entity. U.S. intelligence officer Amanda Waller has determined only a secretly convened group of disparate, despicable individuals with next to nothing to lose will do. However, once they realize they weren’t picked to succeed but chosen for their patent culpability when they inevitably fail, will the Suicide Squad resolve to die trying, or decide it’s every man for himself?

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Looks Like No Suicide Squad Ultimate Cut

For fans hoping for a Suicide Squad Ultimate Cut, that might not be in the cards.

Following the disappointing theatrical release of Batman Vs. Superman, an extended Ultimate Cut was released, which I felt was a heck of a lot better than the movie version.

With Suicide Squad currently mirroring Batman Vs. Superman over at Rotten Tomatoes with a paltry 27% positive rating (dropping 11% in the past day or two), and it also learned a lot of Jared Leto Joker scenes were cut from the movie, I’ve seen some fans online hoping for a Suicide Squad Ultimate cut.

The reason there may not be a Suicide Squad Ultimate Cut is because the theatrical release of Suicide Squad is director David Ayer’s version. Regarding Batman vs. Superman, Zack Snyder wanted to put out a longer theatrical version, but was turned down by WB brass. 

Ayer filled in Collider that they have “a chunk” of deleted scenes for the Suicide Squad Blu-Ray with “definitely over 10 minutes of material on there.” Ayer continues with confirmation the theatrical version of Suicide Squad is his cut.

“But this cut of the movie is my cut, there’s no sort of parallel universe version of the movie, the released movie is my cut,” Ayer said. “And that’s one of the toughest things about writing, shooting, and directing a film, is you end up with these orphans and you f—ing love them and you think they’d be amazing scenes and do these amazing things but the film is a dictatorship (laughs), not a democracy, and just because something’s cool and charismatic doesn’t mean it gets to survive in the final cut. The flow of the movie is the highest master.”

You can watch one of those cut Jared Leto Joker scenes here.

I’m also going to post a slight spoiler following this image why a Suicide Squad Ultimate cut wouldn’t even work.

Suicide Squad Spoiler Warning:

The biggest flaw with the movie is the villain. I can’t see how they can fix that with added scenes. Sure it would be cool to see more of Leto’s Joker (I actually had no problem with his screen time), but I’m guessing it wouldn’t add anything to the story, which overall I felt was extremely lacking. The villain (not the actor who played the role) was awful. Again, just my opinion.

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Stan Lee & Joe Quesada Respond To David Ayer “F’ Marvel”

The premiere of Suicide Squad saw director David Ayer get a little worked up as he echoed a fan who yelled out, “F’ Marvel!”

Ayer quickly took to Twitter to offer an apology.

Word of the Marvel f-bomb has now reached the likes of none other than Stan Lee, as well as Marvel Comics chief creative officer Joe Quesada.

Regarding the latter, Quesada tweeted out everything’s good.

“Hey Marvel faithful I know you’re upset but cut @DavidAyerMovies a break, it was all in good fun. Can’t wait to see SS, best of luck David!”

Likewise, Stan Lee didn’t seem to upset by the comment (via CBM), which also saw Stan Lee link to his infamous “Stan Le F**k You” rant.

“Hey @DavidAyerMovies – Don’t feel too bad about dropping the f bomb. It’s a compliment of the highest order!” Lee said.

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Suicide Squad Issues Include Drama & Lots Of Cuts

Yesterday saw the early Suicide Squad reviews hit Rotten Tomatoes giving it a dismal rating; actually today the rating is even lower at 32%.

Now word of the problems surrounding the movie is beginning to come out as THR reports on the matter.

It’s said Suicide Squad had “Secret Drama: Rushed Production, Competing Cuts, High Anxiety” with the article going futher in depth:

 One WB exec is quoted as saying “better late than never.”

 Used a director, David Ayer, untested in tentpole movies.

 Too rushed (script was done by Ayer in six weeks).

 Mutiptile and competing cuts of the film in part due to an early test screening as well as reaction to the trailers (needed to be more fun and light, and less somber than Ayer’s version).

 Too much studio intervention (unclear what it means to be the actual director on the movie).

 WB let Ayer pursue his original vision, but Warners set about working on a different cut at the same time working with the company that put out the trailer.

 A source with ties to Suicide Squad says they would have been better off giving Ayer more time to work.

 WB was nervous from the start and became extremely rattled and even more nervous following the reaction to Batman Vs. Superman (which also had editing and cuts issues).

 WB CEO Kevin Tsujihara “was really pissed about damage to the brand,” following the reception to Batman Vs. Superman.

 Mutilple editors.

 Another sources describe the “fraught process”: “a lot of panic and ego instead of calmly addressing the tonal issue.”

 The demands by WB started to bother Ayer: He fired and rehired his management team; WB didn’t pick up his Will Smith Bright movie which went to Netflix with Ayer getting a massive $90 million.

 The article does note Ayer was on board with the process as Ayer and WB released a joint statement: “This was an amazing experience. We did a lot of experimentation and collaboration along the way. But we are both very proud of the result. This is a David Ayer film, and Warners is proud to present it.”

 Suicide Squad needs to make $750-800 million to be a success.

David Ayer also took to Twitter to address the critical reviews stating he’s proud of the movie and did it for the fans.

“Suicide Squad” has an August 5, 2016 release date directed by David Ayer starring Will Smith as Deadshot, Jared Leto as the Joker, Margot Robbie as Harley Quinn, Cara Delevingne as Enchantress, Jai Courtney as Boomerang, Joel Kinnaman as Rick Flag, Viola Davis as Amanda Waller, Adam Beach as Slipknot, Karen Fukuhara as Katana, Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje as Killer Croc, Jay Hernandez as El Diablo, and Scott Eastwood in an unknown role.

Synopsis:

It feels good to be bad… Assemble a team of the world’s most dangerous, incarcerated Supervillains, provide them with the most powerful arsenal at the government’s disposal, and send them off on a mission to defeat an enigmatic, insuperable entity. U.S. intelligence officer Amanda Waller has determined only a secretly convened group of disparate, despicable individuals with next to nothing to lose will do. However, once they realize they weren’t picked to succeed but chosen for their patent culpability when they inevitably fail, will the Suicide Squad resolve to die trying, or decide it’s every man for himself?

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David Ayer Says “F Marvel” At Suicide Squad Premiere; Wants To Direct Superman

Update: David Ayer has apologized for his ant-Marvel remarks. 

Original story:

It’s definitely on!

At tonight’s premiere of Suicide Squad, director David Ayer took the stage and said, “F’ Marvel!”

Watch the video below.

David Ayer also told JoBlo that if given the chance, he wouldn’t mind taking on the Man of Steel.

If everything was on the table? I love Superman, I think Superman would be amazing. There’s so many; it’s such an insanely rich universe, there’s so much depth to it. You could literally open up the encyclopedia of characters and stab your finger at a page and you’d have an amazing character.

And his thoughts on Batman vs. Superman:

I liked it a lot. I love Zack; he is probably the biggest fan of DC Comics. He has an incredible passion in a very specific way, a specific take on it. He’s a smart guy, and I think he heard everybody, he heard them loud and clear, and you grow and you evolve. I thought it was a stunning movie, absolutely stunning. I wish I could get some of those shots in the can. The guy’s an amazing visualist. 

“Suicide Squad” has an August 5, 2016 release date directed by David Ayer starring Will Smith as Deadshot, Jared Leto as the Joker, Margot Robbie as Harley Quinn, Cara Delevingne as Enchantress, Jai Courtney as Boomerang, Joel Kinnaman as Rick Flag, Viola Davis as Amanda Waller, Adam Beach as Slipknot, Karen Fukuhara as Katana, Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje as Killer Croc, Jay Hernandez as El Diablo, and Scott Eastwood in an unknown role.

Synopsis:

It feels good to be bad… Assemble a team of the world’s most dangerous, incarcerated Supervillains, provide them with the most powerful arsenal at the government’s disposal, and send them off on a mission to defeat an enigmatic, insuperable entity. U.S. intelligence officer Amanda Waller has determined only a secretly convened group of disparate, despicable individuals with next to nothing to lose will do. However, once they realize they weren’t picked to succeed but chosen for their patent culpability when they inevitably fail, will the Suicide Squad resolve to die trying, or decide it’s every man for himself?

 

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King Shark Almost Made It Into Suicide Squad

It’s learned King Shark almost made it into the Suicide Squad movie.

David Ayer was asked the question on Twitter, “What other characters had you considered including into the Skwad that didn’t quite make the cut?”

With Ayer responding via video (watch below), “So one of the characters I was thinking about for the Squad line-up was actually King Shark, but we realized it would take a lot of work, lot of CG work, I wasn’t quite comfortable having a full CG character. We actually ended up going with Killer Croc who turned out to be the right guy for the job.”

It’s probably a good thing King Shark never made it into Suicide Squad otherwise the character may have never shown up on The Flash. WB put the clamp down on Arrow from using Suicide Squad characters as they thought the brand recognition would get mixed up in the eyes of the fans.

Speaking of King Shark, DC Collectibles also revealed the cool Flash action figure at Comic-Con. Check that out below as well.

“Suicide Squad” has an August 5, 2016 release date directed by David Ayer starring Will Smith as Deadshot, Jared Leto as the Joker, Margot Robbie as Harley Quinn, Cara Delevingne as Enchantress, Jai Courtney as Boomerang, Joel Kinnaman as Rick Flag, Viola Davis as Amanda Waller, Adam Beach as Slipknot, Karen Fukuhara as Katana, Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje as Killer Croc, Jay Hernandez as El Diablo, and Scott Eastwood in an unknown role.

Synopsis:

It feels good to be bad… Assemble a team of the world’s most dangerous, incarcerated Supervillains, provide them with the most powerful arsenal at the government’s disposal, and send them off on a mission to defeat an enigmatic, insuperable entity. U.S. intelligence officer Amanda Waller has determined only a secretly convened group of disparate, despicable individuals with next to nothing to lose will do. However, once they realize they weren’t picked to succeed but chosen for their patent culpability when they inevitably fail, will the Suicide Squad resolve to die trying, or decide it’s every man for himself?

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David Ayer Shoots Down Jared Leto Joker Theory (Video)

With the different look of the Jared Leto Joker and the reveal of the Robin suit in Batman Vs. Superman, a fan theory hit the net suggesting Suicide Squad‘s Joker was actually Jason Todd due to possible similar wounds on the shoulders (see above).

Nope.

You can watch an interview below with the cast of the Suicide Squad, with director David Ayer asked what’s the most ridiculous rumor he’s heard?

“That the Joker is Jason Todd. It ain’t the case,” Ayer responded and pointed into the camera [at the fans]. “He’s not.”

Ayer also tackles the rumor that said they did Suicide Squad reshoots to add funnier moments, aka “The Deadpool Affect.”

“I don’t think you can do that,” Ayer said. “You know you got a scene and then all of a sudden dudes are cracking jokes back to the old scene. It doesn’t work like that. The movie was always funny. The movie was always a lot of fun. The studio just gave me more resources to make it even better.”

“Suicide Squad” has an August 5, 2016 release date directed by David Ayer starring Will Smith as Deadshot, Jared Leto as the Joker, Margot Robbie as Harley Quinn, Cara Delevingne as Enchantress, Jai Courtney as Boomerang, Joel Kinnaman as Rick Flag, Viola Davis as Amanda Waller, Adam Beach as Slipknot, Karen Fukuhara as Katana, Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje as Killer Croc, Jay Hernandez as El Diablo, and Scott Eastwood in an unknown role.

Synopsis:

It feels good to be bad… Assemble a team of the world’s most dangerous, incarcerated Supervillains, provide them with the most powerful arsenal at the government’s disposal, and send them off on a mission to defeat an enigmatic, insuperable entity. U.S. intelligence officer Amanda Waller has determined only a secretly convened group of disparate, despicable individuals with next to nothing to lose will do. However, once they realize they weren’t picked to succeed but chosen for their patent culpability when they inevitably fail, will the Suicide Squad resolve to die trying, or decide it’s every man for himself?

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Suicide Squad Images: Jared Leto, Margot Robbie, David Ayer & More

More Suicide Squad images have been released via WB photographer Clay Enos.

Images include Margot Robbie’s Harley Quinn, Jared Leto’s Joker, Common as Monster T (Tattooed Man) and director David Ayer.

“Suicide Squad” has an August 5, 2016 release date directed by David Ayer starring Will Smith as Deadshot, Jared Leto as the Joker, Margot Robbie as Harley Quinn, Cara Delevingne as Enchantress, Jai Courtney as Boomerang, Joel Kinnaman as Rick Flag, Viola Davis as Amanda Waller, Adam Beach as Slipknot, Karen Fukuhara as Katana, Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje as Killer Croc, Jay Hernandez as El Diablo, and Scott Eastwood in an unknown role.

Synopsis:

It feels good to be bad… Assemble a team of the world’s most dangerous, incarcerated Supervillains, provide them with the most powerful arsenal at the government’s disposal, and send them off on a mission to defeat an enigmatic, insuperable entity. U.S. intelligence officer Amanda Waller has determined only a secretly convened group of disparate, despicable individuals with next to nothing to lose will do. However, once they realize they weren’t picked to succeed but chosen for their patent culpability when they inevitably fail, will the Suicide Squad resolve to die trying, or decide it’s every man for himself?

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David Ayer Teases ARGUS; Says Suicide Squad Is A Beast

Director David Ayer has taken to Twitter to offer a tease that ARGUS is involved with the Suicide Squad movie.

Ayer tweeted out an image used for the movie of a government manual which features the ARGUS logo.

ARGUS is a part of Homeland Security that deals with the metahuman threats.

David Ayer also tweeted out that Suicide Squad is officially finished.

“Squad is completed! Finished final mix and coloring. Now it’s off to the lab and then the world. Nothing like it out there. It.Is.a.Beast,” Ayer said.

Earlier also saw it reported that Suicide Squad has a run-time of 1 hour and 40 minutes. After seemingly confirming the run-time with a retweet, David Ayer followed up the tweet stating the reported run-time is inaccurate. 

WB has also launched a new Suicide Squad viral site where fans can create their own skulls. Head on over to squadyourself.suicidesquad.com to check it out.

“Suicide Squad” has an August 5, 2016 release date directed by David Ayer starring Will Smith as Deadshot, Jared Leto as the Joker, Margot Robbie as Harley Quinn, Cara Delevingne as Enchantress, Jai Courtney as Boomerang, Joel Kinnaman as Rick Flag, Viola Davis as Amanda Waller, Adam Beach as Slipknot, Karen Fukuhara as Katana, Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje as Killer Croc, Jay Hernandez as El Diablo, and Scott Eastwood in an unknown role.

Synopsis:

It feels good to be bad… Assemble a team of the world’s most dangerous, incarcerated Supervillains, provide them with the most powerful arsenal at the government’s disposal, and send them off on a mission to defeat an enigmatic, insuperable entity. U.S. intelligence officer Amanda Waller has determined only a secretly convened group of disparate, despicable individuals with next to nothing to lose will do. However, once they realize they weren’t picked to succeed but chosen for their patent culpability when they inevitably fail, will the Suicide Squad resolve to die trying, or decide it’s every man for himself?

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Suicide Squad Run-Time Gets Revealed

Update: Director David Ayer is stating the run-time is not true.

 

 

The run-time for Suicide Squad is revealed.

The David Ayer directed movie comes in a lot shorter than Man of Steel and Batman Vs. Superman.

Fandango’s Flixster reveals the Suicide Squad run-time to be 1 hour and 40 minutes.

Man of Steel has a 2 hour and 28 minute run-time, with Batman Vs. Superman coming in at 2 hours and 33 minutes (3 hours for extended version).

“Suicide Squad” has an August 5, 2016 release date directed by David Ayer starring Will Smith as Deadshot, Jared Leto as the Joker, Margot Robbie as Harley Quinn, Cara Delevingne as Enchantress, Jai Courtney as Boomerang, Joel Kinnaman as Rick Flag, Viola Davis as Amanda Waller, Adam Beach as Slipknot, Karen Fukuhara as Katana, Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje as Killer Croc, Jay Hernandez as El Diablo, and Scott Eastwood in an unknown role.

Synopsis:

It feels good to be bad… Assemble a team of the world’s most dangerous, incarcerated Supervillains, provide them with the most powerful arsenal at the government’s disposal, and send them off on a mission to defeat an enigmatic, insuperable entity. U.S. intelligence officer Amanda Waller has determined only a secretly convened group of disparate, despicable individuals with next to nothing to lose will do. However, once they realize they weren’t picked to succeed but chosen for their patent culpability when they inevitably fail, will the Suicide Squad resolve to die trying, or decide it’s every man for himself?

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